Where do I go or who do I see if I have an idea about an LDS book? Well its a combination of a book and LDS primary songs.

Thanks in advance for your help.

First, because it uses Primary songs—and those are copyrighted—you’ll need to apply for permission to use them. CLICK HERE for Copyright Guidelines and contact information.

My understanding is that they are pretty tight about permission to create songbooks. If you’re quoting songs as part of a novel, that’s a little different.

And for those who want to quote General Authorities, start with the Intellectual Property Office, same as with songs.

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Normally, this would be a Writing Tip Tuesday post, but I have several questions in the queue and I want to get to them before I start posting the short stories for the contest. (10 more days to submit; tick-tock!)

Dear LDSP, I finally have a contract in hand, (AAaahhhh!!!) but have no idea how good it is. Do you know, 1) is 5% of the net received by publisher for the first 5000 acceptable? Also, 2) how long is the “full term of copyright”? This contract seems relatively innocuous, but what do I know. 3) Is there someone you could recommend to have look a contract over?

  1. Royalties vary from publisher to publisher. 5% of net, IMHO, is low but I’ve been hearing that a lot lately in the LDS market, especially for first time authors. Here is a fairly clear explanation of how royalties work (retail vs net). Keep in mind that many LDS fiction titles never hit that 5,000 mark, some do not even crack 1,000.
  2. Copyright. I’ve had several questions lately about basic copyright, so first let’s define it.

    Copyright is a form of protection grounded in the U.S. Constitution and granted by law for original works of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression. Copyright covers both published and unpublished works. (

    This means, as I said yesterday, that as soon as you put your ideas into a fixed form—write on paper, typed into a computer, recorded on a tape—your work is protected by copyright. You, as the creator of that work, own the copyright.

    When you go through a publisher to have that work published, you are essentially selling or licensing to a third party the right to publish (copy) and distribute (sell) that work in various formats. Payment for those rights come back to you in the form of royalties and/or advances against expected royalties.

    The term, or length of time, that those rights are available to that publisher is defined in your contract, as are the various formats that the publisher can sell.

    Current U.S. copyright law states that the “full term of copyright” lasts for the life of the author, plus 70 years. Therefore, according to your contract, the publisher will have the right to publish and sell your book for your entire lifetime, plus 50 years.

    However, before you panic, usually there is an out-of-print clause or a minimum sales clause in there somewhere that states that if the publisher lets your book go out of print, or if sales of the book drop below a certain point for a given amount of time, the rights will revert back to the author. If you don’t have a clause like that, try to get one added.

  3. One of the benefits of having a good agent is that it’s their job to look through your contract and make sure it’s legal and fair to you. In the LDS industry, we don’t have agents. Too small. If you have access to a copyright contract attorney, that’s your best bet—but it’s also expensive. Try to find someone who has a little experience with publishing and contracts to read through it. And if you don’t understand your contract, by all means, have your publisher explain it before you sign.

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But It’s Mine!

February 8, 2010

This was asked in the comments section of the Book of Mormon short story contest info post. A newbie question: When you say the author retains the copyright, does that imply I should copyright it before I submit? Your work is copyrighted the minute you set it in tangible and/or readable format, whether you type […]

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Image Copyrights

May 7, 2009

I would like to use a few graphics in the book. Is there a specific form or format that you need the approval from the source to be in? For instance, the cover. I can find the artist and ask permission to use his/her work, but would a simple email stating that he/she has allowed […]

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How Do I Protect My Ideas?

October 19, 2007

I have a question about personal copyrights. Sometimes I think about sharing a portion of my story (4-6 pages), but I worry that someone may take my idea and make it their own. I know that it would be a different story, because of how they would interpret it. But my question is how can […]

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Quoting Church Leaders

May 14, 2007

This does not apply to most LDS fiction writers, but non-fiction writers–HEADS UP! The Church is tightening up their copyright permission policies. Actually, they’re not really changing their policies, rather, they’re tightening up enforcement of the policies that have been in existence for years. The number of books and other products that are using copyrighted, […]

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